Anthony Kiedis Interview Radio 2

OK, the Chris Evans interview from Radio 2 (Britain) this morning. It’s online but I’m sure sure if you can listen worldwide as it’s on iPlayer. It starts about 2 hours and 8 mins in (begins with Dark Necessities).
Transcript:

Chris Evans Radio 2 Interview with Anthony Kiedis June 17th 2016

Guests: Anthony Kiedis, Nadiya Hussain, Toby Jones and Tom Odell

Starts with Dark Necessities playing.

Chris Evans: The Red Hot Chili Peppers with Dark Necessities. That’s out today along with the brand new Red Hot Chili Peppers album, The Getaway. And joining us now from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, we’ll just let his song finish then we’ll talk to him… Anthony Kiedis. Good morning, sir.
Anthony Kiedis: Good morning to you, sir.

Chris Evans: How are you?

Anthony Kiedis: I’m a little out of focus but I plan on coming to.

Chris Evans then talks about where the other guests come from…. So you’re in good company.

Anthony Kiedis: And Nadiya (one of the other guests on the show who replies she came in from Milton Keynes.) She looks very well rested.
All commenting on how good she looks. More comments about sleeping in Milton Keynes (an English town)

Chris Evans: So Anthony, we have the eleventh Red Hot Chili Peppers album. Now with a Chili Peppers’ album, it’s not so much what you get but what you don’t get because you always write far too many songs don’t you so what are we not getting this time?

Anthony Kiedis: You’re not getting the b-level tunes. Our most recent producer, Danger Mouse, was quite sure about that. So you’re getting the best of the best, the cream of the cream of what we have to offer.

Chris Evans: But the last album five years ago, you said you had a spare album’s worth of songs for that so where have they gone now?

Anthony Kiedis: We’ve put them out on singles and weird little packages that only the real vinyl-philes care about.

Chris Evans asks the other guests if they know about Danger Mouse and says it’s a gang of people.
Anthony Kiedis: No, it’s one intellectual individual.

Chris Evans: Oh, I thought it was like three in Danger Mouse.

Anthony Kiedis: No, just one guy working the job of three men (CE interrupts a couple of times)

Chris Evans: … So when Danger Mouse, he who must be obeyed, says I don’t like this one, what do you do? Do you have a fight or a vote, do you go out or what do you do?

Anthony Kiedis: We kind of let go.

Other guests interrupt with comments about having a Bake Off [Nadiya ‘won’ a baking competition here called the ‘Great British Bake Off’.].

Anthony Kiedis: When you hire a guy like that, you hire him for his opinions and his direction and if you fight him it’s kind of pointless so at a certain point you’re like, well. I’m an artist and I get very attached to my own little ditties and maybe they’re not all that and I should move forward.

Chris Evans: Have you always been like that like that…

Anthony Kiedis: We used to fight to the death [CE interrupts: Back in the day] but we tried the experiment, rolled the dice and like we got.

Chris Evans: But you’re 53 now [comments about how good he looks].

Nadiya: I didn’t recognise him with his shirt on… but usually it’s the shirt off.

Anthony Kiedis: I could say the same about you.

Laughter. Chris Evans: …So you’re the eldest here.

Anthony Kiedis: Am I the eldest in this entire building?

Chris Evans: No… [talks about some other people]. …What does the 53 year old Anthony Kiedis write like compared to the 21 year old when you kicked off. Are you still writing about the same things?

Anthony Kiedis: No, not so much. The energy is still similar because I saw some old footage of us when we were in France that they’d dredged up out of God knows where and I was like, the energy is still there. You know, the collective love for music and poetry and just the brotherhood of sound. And it’s still kind of flowing through me and I attribute that to the team.

Chris Evans: But you’re still writing about girls though, aren’t you?

Anthony Kiedis: Well, heartbreak never ends, does it?

Chris Evans: Oh, nicely put.

Anthony Kiedis: It just doesn’t. [Chris Evans interrupts again] It just doesn’t.

Chris Evans: And this is tired. Imagine what he’s like if he’s had some sleep.

Anthony Kiedis: But, err, maybe the angle or the prison (?) that you see these through changes over time?

Chris Evans: Same story, different point of view

Anthony Kiedis: Yeah. Different point of view

Chris Evans:  Like that a lot. Now all great bands. You’re talking about Coldplay, you’re talking about U2 , The Beatles, have their own sound and I think that’s what makes a band great. And you have such a distinctive sound…

Anthony Kiedis: Thank you.

Chris Evans: When was that born? Did you go into the studio and thought, oh, this is the sound, this is the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ sound?

Anthony Kiedis: We didn’t think about it but we never wanted to sound like anybody else.

Chris Evans: How do you do that though?

Anthony Kiedis: We grew up in high school together and we all brought something different to the table. My guys studied music from a young age and I did not so I think, like, adding the idiot to the table of very talented musicians gave us a unique rub.

Chris Evans: Bono’s like that, is the poet, lyricist… But you are like that. You were always writing poems as a kid but your band mates were trumpeting, classical piano and all of that stuff, weren’t they?

Anthony Kiedis: Exactly. They started off young wanting to study but I didn’t want to get into that but we found if you added this person to that mix, you got us.

Chris Evans:  But I’m intrigued about you not wanting to sound like anyone else… If you try to be original, that’s the last thing you end up being.

Anthony Kiedis: Fair enough

Chris Evans: [You just have to be it. All talk about adding the idiot to the equation and Tom has his own sound]…

Goes into Tom Odell playing a song. At the end, Chris Evans asks Anthony Kiedis what he thinks:

Anthony Kiedis: Good song… We made some eye contact… It was a moment.

Tom: I never thought I’d be singing that song in front of Anthony from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Anthony Kiedis: that was cool. Thank you.

Chatter

Anthony Kiedis: So you’ve been playing for a while?

Tom: Yes, since I was seven.

Guests talk about how assured Tom is and then discuss how playing a musical instrument gets you the girls. Decide the piano is the thing to learn…

Chris Evans: But Anthony’s never struggled, it has to be said.

Anthony Kiedis: You know, Paul McCartney’s dad told him that when he was a kid. “Son, play the piano and when you go to parties, the girls will come to you.”

All agree.

Anthony Kiedis: He started off on the piano… In the Beatles [after a comment about PM playing bass], he did play the bass…Tell that to Lemmy.

Tom talks about following Lemmy & Motorhead on stage at a concert…. Leads to comment by Chris Evans saying Lemmy turned up to do an interview with a flight case of tequila:

Anthony Kiedis: You were impressed.

More chatter.

Anthony Kiedis: They’ve just immortalised him at the Rainbow Bar and Grill by re-naming the lounge the Lemmy Lounge… on Sunset Strip in Hollywood.

Comments about needing to go there.

Tom (?): They’ve changed the entire Rainbow name?

Anthony Kiedis: Not the entire name. They’ve changed the lounge which didn’t used to have a name and is now the Lenny Lounge.

Talk about being there… Goes abruptly into an advert and then the traffic news.

Chris Evans: We’re about to say goodbye to Anthony Kiedis. The single and album out today. Just before you go Anthony…

Anthony Kiedis: Yes…

Chris Evans: How good has rock ‘n’ roll been to you? Has it looked after you?

Anthony Kiedis: It’s been as good to me as gardening has been to the Queen.

Laughter

Chris Evans: Where did that come from?

Anthony Kiedis: Don’t know. I’m impressed with a 90 year old woman who’s still out and about.

Chris Evans: Talks about it being a big week for her with her birthday last week and it being Royal Ascot [a racing event where horses are made to compete and each year some die which is allegedly entertaining... Sorry I’m being political again!] this week. Chris Evans talks about her getting her energy from her mum (think she lived to 101?!! It was over 100.]

Anthony Kiedis: Nothing from her dad?

Chris Evans: Nothing from her dad but her love of racing from her mum.

Anthony Kiedis: Oh, OK. The love of racing, yeah.

Chris Evans talks about the Queen Mum and racing.

Anthony Kiedis: I hear there’s a race horse out there called the Red Hot Filly Pepper.

Chris Evans: Well, let’s find out if it’s running today… Listen Anthony, it’s a great to have you here. We all love you. We absolutely love you and your band.

Anthony Kiedis: The love is mutual. Thank you for having me.

Chris Evans: Mentions him paying the summer festivals.

Anthony Kiedis: All summer long; we’ll be playing the festivals. We’ll be Reading, we’ll be Leeds, we’ll be around.

Chris Evans: All good….thank you

Anthony Kiedis: Nice to meet you all. Beautiful singing (to Tom)

Ends with comments by guests about [Anthony’s] top being on.

Ends with Ace of Spades by Motorhead.

 

 

RHCP Tour 2016: France (TV Show Concert)

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UPDATED: Full show can be seen HERE

RHCP was recorded performing in France on Tuesday  for a TV show which was shown today.

Live Performance Date: 14th June 2016

TV release: 16th June 2016 on Canal+

Location: Studios SFP .

 

Set List:

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Source

Interview

Dark Necessities
Give It Away
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We Turn Red
The Longest Wave
Nobody Weird Like Me
The Getaway
Go Robot
By The Way

Videos

Rolling Stone Article with interview clips

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Rolling stone is running an article about the band’s pre-show warm ups which has a short interview with each member of the band. You can read the article here

Video transcripts:

QUESTION: What’s your ritual?

Anthony Kiedis: The physicality of our shows is such there’s no way you’re going to make that happen without preparation and because I sing loud for two hours during a show I have to spend a lot of time getting my voice together with the right food, with the right warm ups and then I have to run or stretch or do push-ups or wrestle Flea or something to get my blood flowing. You can’t go from zero to 100 miles per hour without preparing. So I have to eat three hours before so I have protein in my blood stream but so that I won’t vomit all over the microphone because if I eat right before I play, I’m not keeping it down. It’s too intense; it’s like paying an entire basketball game, or something, while you’re singing or playing instruments. And there’s also a certain headspace that you have to get into, which we all kind of gravitate into one room about fifteen minutes before we go on and we listen to some music together. It could be anything; it could be funkadelic, it could be Patty Smith, it could be anything but we kinda get together and get on the same wavelength. And Josh is incessantly warming up and Flea is incessantly warming up and Chad shows up in his jumpsuit and starts tapping the sticks. And everyone has to have their bones and their tissues and their thoughts warm and stimulate and together for us to take the stage and get off on the right foot. You know, we can’t do it cold or show up late. It literally takes hours to get ready. And sometimes you’re more ready than others and sometimes there’s nerves and sometimes something bad happens right before you go on but you have to be able to deal with all of that and put it aside. You could be sick, you could be hurt, you could be upset, you could be in a fight with your girlfriend, maybe you didn’t sleep, whatever, you have to get it together for that moment.

Flea: We all have different things that we do. I mean I have a real specific ritual. I warm up playing bass for like an hour. I stretch, I run around the arena you know to get my blood flowing, I meditate, I pray. I’m pretty intense about it.

Chad Smith: I don’t have a real… umm. I think Flea and Anthony have a real, it’s 6.45 I’m gonna do this, at 7.30 I’m going do that and then I’m going to [mimes playing bass]. Yeah, I’m kinda like, I don’t like to get to the show too early; those guys will show up early like four hours before the gig … [mumbling]. Whatever works. For me I like to get there about an hour and a half before, and I like to watch some of the band before and I like to have a look at the crowd and hang…(?) and look around a bit. And I get something to eat and I just warm up and we’re lucky and fortunate to have instruments backstage to get the blood flowing. I think the best way to perform is to be relaxed. I want to be excited to play. I don’t really get nervous because if I was nervous I wouldn’t know what I was going to be doing. I’m excited but I want to be relaxed because when you’re relaxed you play best (?). And just connect with the other guys. So just hang out, talk, listen to music. Whatever. I don’t have a [makes chopping gesture with hand] thing.

Josh Klinghoffer: I don’t have that much of a ritual. I ..umm… I warm up my voice now because I see the difference when I do and when I don’t so I try to do that. What else? I try to play as much as I can. Play guitar throughout the day. Warm up my voice, try no longer to entertain guests coz that takes more out of me than playing three shows. Especially at this early stage of a tour as you have friends come, family come to the shows and they want to spend time with you and they don’t necessarily understand what you have to go do; expel the physical and the psychological energy… Our crew and everyone who works with this band, is such a great person who has such much positivity thing that they bring to it and everyone does such an amazing job, that in a show, at a show that it’s hard not just to feel joy.

Red Hot Chili Peppers from 104.3 The Shark

New two-part interview with the Red Hot Chili Peppers (Anthony does one voice over; the rest is Chad Smith, Josh Klinghoffer and Flea)

Transcript:

Part one:

Question: On the radio

Flea: The first time I ever heard myself on the radio was in 1979 when I played in a group called Anthym.

Chad Smith: I was in Detroit, Michigan where I grew up and I was in a band called Toby Redd, with two ‘d’s. And we were kind of a modern rock band in the late 80s.

Flea: I remember it so well. We all were gathered round and drinking beers and stuff and waiting for it as we knew we were going to come on the radio in this three hour time period. We were so psyched and our song came on the radio and we couldn’t believe it. And the song was called ‘Clocks’ and the guy said, “And here’s a band called Anthym with a neat little ditty called Clocks.” And it came on and it was like this neat New Wave ditty [Flea sings, “do de doo dee de dee...” something like that!] and that was it and you know it was really exciting.

Chad Smith: It was pretty exciting. I remember we did an interview with the station late at night and then I drove home and I remember sitting in my driveway and listening to the radio station and hearing our interview which was obviously taped and waiting for them liketo talk to us. [Mock voice] “And a new band got a new record deal and this is their new song dada dada dah.” And I was like wow this is so cool. I cranked it up and wasby myself in the parking lot area of the driveway in my house at like midnight listening to our song. It was like pretty, pretty exciting to think you could even be on a station that played all of what I thought were like my favourite bands and heroes and I didn’t feel worthy, you know? [Laughs]

Flea: It’s funny coz I always think of that like you know we just put out our single for this new record last week, the song ‘Dark Necessities’, and I always have that feeling. I knew the song was coming out last Wednesday at 7a.m. I was up at 6.30 lying in my bed, put on my phone, put on the radio and I was like I wonder if they are going to play it when it comes out and sure enough, at 7a.m bam! there is the song. You know music is such an interior thing, you know, you sit by a room with your piano, your bass, whatever you write music, you get together with your friends and you kind of circle the wagons and you hold up in a room and you write and create and you write them songs. Then you get in the studio and once again, you know once again you circle them wagons, make a little bigger circle, and bring in a producer and shit and get into it and make this thing. And it’s all so personal, you know, and all of a sudden it’s all done and bam! it’s out in the world and it becomes there for everybody and it’s a really wild feeling, you know? It’s like thing that’s become so personal interior becoming for everybody and people are gonna like it or not like it or yell at ya or love ya or hug ya or tell ya to get lost. So it’s a crazy experience but every time I’m still excited to hear it on the radio and I still get this feeling man. I’m like 53 years old and I still just like, “we’re on the radio!” and my daughter’s running around and I’m like, “Sunny! SunnY! Get in here,” my 10 year old daughter, “we’re on the radio!” And she’s like, “Which one papa?” [squeaky voice]. And we’re dancing around the kitchen hearing it and stuff and making oatmeal. So it’s you know, it’s exciting.

Chad Smith: So yeah, you know that feeling never really goes away for me. Feel like a little kid. It’s like Christmas, oh my god… [laughs]

QUESTION: Last thing you heard on the radio?

Josh Klinghoffer: The score of a play-off game.

Chad Smith: Whoever was singing, what’s that song from Frozen? [someone speaks in the background]. That one! The Frozen song. I think Hamilton is the new Frozen for adults.

Flea: Dee dee do dee dee dee doo do….

Part Two:

Question: What does ‘The Getaway mean to you?

Chad Smith: Well, The Getaway obviously means the title of our new record.

Flea: Well, The Getaway means something intangible to me. But the thing is it makes me think about the band. The band’s always it’s been a real sanctuary for me, in the chaos of the world, growing up as a street kid kind of stuff, being able to bond with my friends and having a place to feel safe to be myself. You know we get mad, hurt each other’s feelings; it’s a real family and a brotherhood. The band has always been a place for me to getaway to. I mean not running away from ourselves but changing and growing and learning and becoming kinder, stronger and more beautiful people.

Chad Smith: You know there is a lot of stuff kinda going on in the world right now with refugees and a lot of people are struggling and when I think of it right now, that’s it. The sad part of it.

Josh Klinghoffer: The first title that we all agreed on. I don’t know. I suppose it means kinda like norms or practices that the band is used to. The way the record is made. The way some of the songs were written. The person that produced the labum.

Flea: I’m excited that on the album, which is a relatively short album for us as we tried to cut it down, we cut off songs that we really loved, but it’s thirteen songs long and every song really occupies its own emotional space.

Chad Smith: Yeah The Getaway is coming out. Dark Necessities has been out as a single; you know I’m really happy with that song. I think it has lots of elements of the Chili Peppers but also is real different and has some growth and change in it. So I think it’s a really good example of where we’re at now as a band.

Josh Klinghoffer: There’s a song called ‘The Hunter’ which I think is a beautiful song, sort of different to anything the bands done before.

Chad Smith: ‘Dreams of a Samurai’ which is the last song on the record, which if it was up to me I wouldn’t have put it last- you see when you’re in a band, there’s a democratic situation and everybody has their vote and I didn’t want it to get lost (?) because I think it’s a really cool song for us.

Josh Klinghoffer: Yeah. No nor did I.

Chad Smith: Again, different a lot of growth.

Josh Klinghoffer: Yeah. That’s truly an interesting song with choir, with some strings, maybe.

Chad Smith: I think we played the song maybe twice so it’s caught a real good spontaneous moment for us.

Flea: I don’t really have favourites. I just love the creative process as a time capsule of where we’ve been during this portion of our lives, you know?

Chad Smith: I don’t know who came up with the title, it might have been Anthony, our singer.

Anthony Kiedis voiceover: Our new song Dark Necessities is about a group of unemployed astronauts sitting around a Ralph’s parking lot trying to eat ice-cream through their astronautical helmets and not having great success.

Question: What is included with the Limited Edition release of ‘The Getaway’?

Josh Klinghoffer: Apparently a cassingle

Chad Smith: I think that was Flea’s idea. A cassette. And then you get some of his toenails that he probably clipped last week and a couple of strands of Anthony’s pubic hair, and one of Josh’s old tennis shoes. Nothing from me.

RHCP Tour 2016: Novarock

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Photo Credit: Henrik Lewandowski

 

Date: Sunday 12th June, 2016

Location: Pannonia Fields, near Nickelsdorf, Austria

 

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Photo Credit: Henrik Lewandowski

Set List:

01 Can’t Stop

02 Dani California

03 Scar Tissue

04 We Turn Red

05 Snow (Hey Oh)

06 Ethiopia

07 Nobody Weird Like Me

08 Dark Necessities

09 She’s Only 18

10 Tell Me Baby

11 The Getaway

12 Californication

13 By The Way

Encore:

14 Under The Bridge

15 Give It Away

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Photo Credits: Henrik Lewandowski

 Csenge’s Notes from the Show

There was actually a pretty nice one-man show from Josh after the comeback (before Under the Bridge). He and Chad was on stage and Josh started to play and sing (!) Tonight (an Iggy Pop – David Bowie song)

Earlier, after Nobody Weird Like Me, Anthony asked Josh whether he knew the song Rain by The Beatles. (It was a rainy day – you never knew whether it started to rain or not – but fortunately during the show it was not raining ) anyway, Josh started to play and sing the song Rain :)

She’s Only 18 and Tell Me Baby were quite a surprise. It was a really great show! I loved every minute of it.

 

Many thanks to Csenge Hatala for the information & Henrik Lewandowski for the pictures

Videos:

 

‘The Getaway’ Album Review: Alternative Nation

Alternative Nation has published a review of The Getaway which discusses all of the tracks. It says the standout tracks are The Longest Wave, Sick Love, and Dark Necessities.

4. The Longest Wave

This is one of Kiedis’ most inspired performances on the album, with an instantly memorable chorus and consistent lyrics. It is definitely one of the album’s highlights, Flea and Klinghoffer’s interplay is among their best since he has joined the band.


5. Goodbye Angels

“Goodbye Angels” is another song about Anthony Kiedis’ love life…Kiedis expands on the themes of age difference affecting his relationship, with the lyrics getting darker.

Say goodbye my love
Thought that I could make you whole
Let your lover sail
Death was made to fail

6. Sick Love

“Sick Love” features Elton John on piano, and he fits in seamlessly. The chorus is one of the catchiest on the album, it has a nostalgic feel that is somewhat reminiscent of 90’s R&B. David Bowie’s influence can also be heard throughout the song.

Rivers get connected so much stronger than expected well
Sick love comes to wash us away
Prisons of perspective
How your vision gets corrected and
Sick love is my modern cliche

“Sick Love” is one of the standout tracks on The Getaway where the experimentation really pays off.

7. Go Robot

“Go Robot” is driven by the rhythm section of Flea and Chad Smith, with melodic synth in the verses, and fuzzier synth in the chorus. Danger Mouse’s influence is evident here on this dancey discoesque track.

8. Feasting On The Flowers

“Feasting On The Flowers” is another R&B flavored song, especially the chorus.

Everything they said about everything
Was a coming undone it’s a life supreme
I do and I don’t, well I do and I don’t, Oh yeah

Feasting on the flowers so fast and young
It’s a light so bright that I bite my tongue
I do and I don’t, well I do and I don’t, Oh yeah
The next dimension, show me in

9. Detroit

“Detroit” changes the pace from the previous tracks, both lyrically and musically. It is more of a straight ahead mid-tempo rocker, reminiscent of Soundgarden and the Strokes. Kiedis sings with distorted vocals about the city of Detroit, with shout outs to the Stooges, J Dilla, Henry Ford, and Funkadelic.

“Detroit” will likely be a live favorite from the album, especially since it is a more straight ahead rock song than many other tracks.

10. This Ticonderoga

“The Ticonderoga” is a distorted rocker, and it’s probably the most uptempo song on The Getaway. Lyrically is goes back to the major theme of lost love on the album, and having to deal with aging, especially in the context of being in a relationship with a younger woman.

11. Encore

“Encore” is a nostalgic ballad.

12. The Hunter

“The Hunter” is another piano driven ballad, with more of a storyteller perspective from Kiedis lyrically rather than his autobiographic point of view on many of the album’s songs.

Even though you raised me I will never be your father
King of each and every Sunset Marquis
Even though you’re crazy you will never be a bother
You’re my Old Man In the Sea

13. Dreams Of A Samurai

The Getaway‘s closing track “Dreams Of A Samurai” opens up with melancholic piano with a vocal solo by Beverley Chitwood before Flea’s bassline kicks in followed by Chad Smith, Anthony Kiedis, and Josh Klinghoffer. The moody psychedelia on “Dreams Of A Samurai” should make it a live favorite, with plenty of opportunities for extended jamming. Chitwood returns for another vocal solo to close the song. Anthony Kiedis’ lyrics tie together the themes of lost love and dealing with his age and morality on the album.

I’m a lonely lad
I’ve lost myself out on the range
I don’t remember much
So don’t ask me I’ve gone insane

Slowly turning into driftwood
No one ever wants to die alone
Thinking that a pretty gift could
Make you less unknown

You can read the full article here

 

The Getaway Mural

A huge copy of ‘The Getaway’ album cover has been painted onto a building in Brooklyn to advertise the new RHCP record. My friend Rich popped down to see it and had his photo taken with it:

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Photo credit: Rich Plenge

The address for anyone interested is 14 Franklin street, Brooklyn

Many thanks Rich!

Flea Discussing the making of ‘We Turn Red’

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Transcript:
Flea talks about recording ‘We Turn Red’

That was also one we came up with in the studio with Brian. It started with a drum loop; Chad played a bit of drums and Brian looped it and it just sounded hard. And you know, we just laid some bass and guitar and some stuff and started making parts and just trying to make something dynamic and beautiful. And you know it was funny coz I was so worried about us losing the live feeling from writing stuff, the songs that we wrote in the studio, in this kinda layered way, but we actually really gained something coz we kept our live energy but we gained this thoughtfulness in writing where, when you’re just jamming with something, with guys and it’s really in the moment, it’s this real spontaneous thing in the moment, but when you’re building like that and you’re kinda taking time with each part as you write it, there’s a new part of thoughtfulness that which comes into the creative process, which we haven’t had before. And it was really cool and you know, there’s like five songs on the record that we wrote in this way and because of that, they have like a different type of thoughtfulness and ‘We Turn Red’ is one of those.